Re: Is there an non-animal substitute for jello?
Article: 12091 of rec.food.veg.cooking
From: email@example.com (Aviv Gladman)
Subject: Re: Is there an non-animal substitute for jello?
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:16:07 GMT
FYI, there are a few different views on the Judaic dietary laws regarding
items like gelatin. Traditional gelatin is, I believe, made from porcine
bone, which would make it unkosher, since pigs are unkosher. However,
Jewish dietary law forbids the consumption of certain parts even in
kosher animals. The forbidden parts include the animal's bones. Hence,
technically all manner of animal-derived gelatin is unkosher. There is
another concept in Judaic law known as 'Davar Hadash', which translates
to 'a new item.' The basic idea is that if you make something into what
is essentially a new product (like pulverizing bone into gelatin), it is
considered to be just that, something totally new with no connection to
the original. Hence, by this definition, any animal-derived gelatin is
considered kosher (including porcine gelatin).
There is a great deal of controversy on the application of the 'new
product' rule to gelatin, so you'll find different Rabbis with different
opinions on the subject. Interestingly enough, these opinions differ
even amongst the more Orthodox Rabbis. So even if a product has a kosher
seal of approval from an Orthodox Rabbi, it doesn't guarantee that the
gelatin isn't animal-derived. The Orthodox Union (identified by a U with
a circle around it) in the United States, and the Canadian Orthodox
Rabbinate (identified by a COR with a circle around it) both do not
sanction the use of animal-derived gelatin, so products with these
symbols on them are a good starting point. In fact, a good rule of thumb
is to avoid any product certified as kosher by only a single Rabbi (as
opposed to a Rabbinical Council), or by a Conservative or Reform Council
(as opposed to an Orthodox one).
There are several brands of kosher gelatin that are derived from seaweed
and other vegetable matter. These usually say so on the label (ie.
seaweed gelatin), but not always, so contacting the manufacturer is a
good idea. BTW for those interested, the kosher marshmallows they sell
for Passover contain ANIMAL-derived gelatin, and some of them even
contain porcine gelatin.
Oh, I do ramble...
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On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Trista Hixson wrote:
> By the way, kosher gelatin is not necessarily vegetarian. Usually it's
> just gelatin made from animals killed kosher-style, which, if you've ever
> read Animal Liberation, is supposed to be more humane, yet because of the
> federal regulations for cleanliness, turns out to be much more horrifying
> and brutal. I don't think I need to go into details here, the book can be
> checked out at just about any local library. But don't be fooled by the
> word kosher. Ask the manufacturer first.